Well this is what I assembled tonight:
Now just need to prime it all.
And this is what I want to have painted by Sunday:
If any one out there is listening, what are the three most common opponents that Space Marines face, you input is welcome on this?
Well that all I have for tonight, so Good Night all see you next time.
An intersection of my love of math and statistics with my love of gaming and dice, with heavy spill over and overlap.
Tuesday, June 28, 2011
Monday, June 27, 2011
These Dice are not Platonic (or square)!!!
A while ago I watch this old guy rant about the state of the dice indertstry, and it got me thinking is he on to some thing. But first the videos:
Part I
Part Two
The Casino Die (The Best)

Hand Forge Iron Dice (The Worst)

Large White Dice

In this set, one is near the same all three axis, while two are way off. It the 3-4 side that the worse, as a lot all eight dice were .0057" average deviation from each other.
Small Black Dice


Part Two
So I got out my trust Vernier Calipers (what that you say), and measured my d20, sure enough they were not the same dimensions all around. I have since lost that data, but here today I will present you with the findings of analyzing two sets my d6. Both sets were bought together, so logic would say manufactured at the same plant. I will compare them to a casino dice. Do note that all the graph have the same 0.04" range, to help with the visual comparison.
The Casino Die (The Best)
| Side | |
| 1-6 | 0.703 |
| 2-5 | 0.702 |
| 3-4 | 0.703 |
| Avg. | 0.7027 |
| Avg. Dev. | 0.0004 |
Hand Forge Iron Dice (The Worst)
| 1 | 2 | Avg. | Avg. Dev. | |
| 1-2 | 0.481 | 0.4855 | 0.4833 | 0.0023 |
| 3-5 | 0.5055 | 0.5100 | 0.5078 | 0.0023 |
| 4-6 | 0.5070 | 0.5100 | 0.5085 | 0.0015 |
| Avg. | 0.4978 | 0.5018 | 0.4998 | |
| Avg. Dev. | 0.0112 | 0.0109 | 0.0111 |
Large White Dice
In this set, one is near the same all three axis, while two are way off. It the 3-4 side that the worse, as a lot all eight dice were .0057" average deviation from each other.
| Die | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | Avg. | Avg. Dev. |
| 1-6 | 0.617 | 0.620 | 0.618 | 0.626 | 0.622 | 0.618 | 0.620 | 0.620 | 0.6201 | 0.0019 |
| 2-5 | 0.630 | 0.616 | 0.625 | 0.626 | 0.614 | 0.617 | 0.620 | 0.625 | 0.6216 | 0.0049 |
| 3-4 | 0.636 | 0.615 | 0.624 | 0.640 | 0.640 | 0.618 | 0.628 | 0.622 | 0.6279 | 0.0081 |
| Avg. | 0.6277 | 0.6170 | 0.6223 | 0.6307 | 0.6253 | 0.6177 | 0.6227 | 0.6223 | 0.6232 | |
| Avg. Dev. | 0.0071 | 0.0020 | 0.0029 | 0.0062 | 0.0098 | 0.0004 | 0.0036 | 0.0018 | 0.0057 |
Small Black Dice
This group was the best, not counting the Casion Die, with an average deviation of 0.0013". I have another set of these in a different colour, so at some point I see how the two set compare.
Large Blue Dice

This group was a off to, not as much as the dime store dice, but much worse then smaller diceby the same company. Here the average deviation was 0.0034".
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | Avg. | Avg. Dev. | |
| 1-6 | 0.4735 | 0.4705 | 0.4750 | 0.4740 | 0.4705 | 0.4705 | 0.4705 | 0.4725 | 0.4730 | 0.4730 | 0.4715 | 0.4730 | 0.4725 | 0.4723 | 0.0012 |
| 2-5 | 0.4710 | 0.4685 | 0.4700 | 0.4710 | 0.4700 | 0.4695 | 0.4680 | 0.4705 | 0.4695 | 0.4700 | 0.4710 | 0.4725 | 0.4700 | 0.4701 | 0.0008 |
| 3-4 | 0.4725 | 0.4695 | 0.4720 | 0.4730 | 0.4700 | 0.4710 | 0.4710 | 0.4740 | 0.4715 | 0.4720 | 0.4725 | 0.4715 | 0.4705 | 0.4716 | 0.0010 |
| Avg. | 0.4723 | 0.4695 | 0.4723 | 0.4727 | 0.4702 | 0.4703 | 0.4698 | 0.4723 | 0.4713 | 0.4717 | 0.4717 | 0.4723 | 0.4710 | 0.4713 | |
| Avg. Dev. | 0.0009 | 0.0007 | 0.0018 | 0.0011 | 0.0002 | 0.0006 | 0.0012 | 0.0012 | 0.0012 | 0.0011 | 0.0006 | 0.0006 | 0.0010 | 0.0013 |
Large Blue Dice
This group was a off to, not as much as the dime store dice, but much worse then smaller diceby the same company. Here the average deviation was 0.0034".
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | Avg. | Avg. Dev. | |
| 1-6 | 0.6185 | 0.6245 | 0.6250 | 0.6190 | 0.6200 | 0.6200 | 0.6175 | 0.6220 | 0.6210 | 0.6200 | 0.6225 | 0.6240 | 0.6212 | 0.0020 |
| 2-6 | 0.6220 | 0.6225 | 0.6350 | 0.6250 | 0.6280 | 0.6255 | 0.6215 | 0.6155 | 0.6185 | 0.6165 | 0.6185 | 0.6255 | 0.6228 | 0.0041 |
| 3-4 | 0.6180 | 0.6230 | 0.6230 | 0.6165 | 0.6180 | 0.6175 | 0.6135 | 0.6280 | 0.6180 | 0.6230 | 0.6285 | 0.6215 | 0.6207 | 0.0038 |
| Avg. | 0.6195 | 0.6233 | 0.6277 | 0.6202 | 0.6220 | 0.6210 | 0.6175 | 0.6218 | 0.6192 | 0.6198 | 0.6232 | 0.6237 | 0.6216 | |
| Avg. Dev. | 0.0017 | 0.0008 | 0.0049 | 0.0032 | 0.0040 | 0.0030 | 0.0027 | 0.0042 | 0.0012 | 0.0022 | 0.0036 | 0.0014 | 0.0034 |
What does this mean, not sure, the amount un-square is in the thousands of inches, maybe if I was building a car engine this would matter, but for dice, don't know. I wonder why we geeks are not more at arms about this, but I think we like pretty things over practicality. As I said I not sure what this means, but I will leave you with this post I came across while researching this piece.
P.S. As I said in my intro I not original, just like doing things for my self.
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